Tolkien vs Hitler

“I have in this War a burning private grudge—which would probably make me a better soldier at 49 than I was at 22: against that ruddy little ignoramus Adolf Hitler (for the odd thing about demonic inspiration and impetus is that it in no way enhances the purely intellectual stature: it chiefly affects the mere will). Ruining, perverting, misapplying, and making for ever accursed, that noble northern spirit, a supreme contribution to Europe, which I have ever loved, and tried to present in its true light.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien

One thing I have observed about the far right is that it seems to often admire both Tolkien and Hitler, two men who clearly had disagreements. So what is one to make of this paradox?

If you asked me personally what I thought of Hitler, I would say that the German people were initially supporting him for the right reasons, namely to make their country financially independent, but the ideology of Nazism itself was not the perfect banner to rally around. In my opinion, National Socialism, is, at best, an emergency ideology to prevent one’s nation from being destroyed in a time of crisis. All this said it is rather amusing to watch Hitler on Youtube waving his fists around yelling about the “roootlesch internatchional clique!”.

What Tolkien seems to be criticizing, however, has more to do with the spiritual ideology pervading German National Socialism. Hitler and (perhaps more) edit: Rosenberg and Himmler used Germanic myth as a source of philosophical themes to be mixed with the occult. The end result was that Hitler edit: Hitler’s philosophers were synthesizing a new spiritual philosophy from traditional Germanic and newer theosophical spiritual elements, not for the purpose of creating something not genuinely Germanic, but to justify a totalitarian regime. This is what Tolkien correctly saw as a perversion of Germanic cultural material.

One place one finds Tolkien and Hitler converging is in a wariness of subversive internationalist conspiracies. Tolkien incorporated this into his literary corpus through the story of the rings, forged in deceit to mind-control the kings of men, dwarves, and elves, and enslave all middle earth to the darkness of Sauron bound up in his One Ring. Hitler was a bit blunter in his condemnation the international elements who use finance to control governments and the media. Tolkien, however, was not anti-Semitic per se and seemed to believe that the nature of the globalist problem is far larger than *them*, that it also hinges on malicious spiritual forces at play, and on the plain weakness of man.

When you understand the Indo-European origins of the spiritual order of Tolkien’s novels, as well as what he is speaking against, the ugliness, greed, and kingless state of the current era, you see that he is speaking from the vantage point of a radical traditionalist. Perhaps he is not an Evola, but I would say that his traditionalism and glorification of monarchy places him farther to the right than Hitler, which something for Tolkien fans (myself included) to think about.



8 thoughts on “Tolkien vs Hitler

  1. “What Tolkien seems to be criticizing, however, has more to do with the spiritual ideology pervading German National Socialism. Hitler and (perhaps more) Rosenberg used Germanic myth as a source of philosophical themes to be mixed with the occult.”

    It’s pretty well known that Hitler loathed the occult. And if you believe Speer’s Inside The Third Reich, Hitler mocked Himmler for his obsession with ancient Germania and Nordic myths. Pretty clear though that Hitler the artist with a love for Wagner liked the semi-mystical iconography that NS used.

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    1. Well perhaps Tolkien was mistaken in blaming Hitler then and should have blamed Himmler and Rosenberg. Remember, Tolkien was not living in Germany at the time and may not have had the information we do today about the quarrels inside the Third Reich.


  2. “Tolkien, however, was not anti-Semitic per se and seemed to believe that the nature of the globalist problem is far larger than *them*, that it also hinges on malicious spiritual forces at play, and on the plain weakness of man.”

    “… I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware noone [sic] of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people.”- The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter 30

    The origins of the spiritual order of Tolkien’s work are not “Indo-European” if such a thing even exists but Romano-Semitic, as it has its origins in his Catholicism.


    1. Tolkien’s supernatural characters were largely pre-Christian mythological figures with Christian personalities attributed to them. “Indo-European” culture has existed for at least 6000 years and if you deny that you know nothing about linguistics or archaeology. Perhaps you are intending to conflate the terms Aryan and Indo-European, which is not something I recommend. Regarding the Jews, the only characters which are clearly based on them are the dwarves. The Valar, Maiar, and Elves are all based on native European mythologies.


      1. That there is an affinity between the major European languages and certain Indo-Persian languauges is beyond dispute. That there ever was a similar cultural affinity is not. Certainly there numerous minor similarities between pre-Christian “European” cultures and certain Indian societies. However, the true genesis of European Civilization is not in Europe nor in India but in Sumeria, which is the proto-archetype of all Rightist Civilization as the Indus Civilization is the proto-archetype of Leftism. Further Tolkien’s description of Númenórean (later Dúnedain ) civilization matches very well with early Sumerian society and the énsi lugal. This coupled with the fact that Tolkien himself ascribed to Adûnaic the Mannish tongue a markedly “Semitic flavor” (SD:240) cement this connection.

        In this light the Valar themselves correlate more to the Sumerian “gods,” particularly Manwë to dEN.LÍL and Ulmo to : dEN.KIG, even Ilúvatar Himself to dAN than to their pre-European counterparts. Manwë and Eönwë also correlate very well to Mīkhāʼēl and Gavri’el. The Maiar have no counterparts in antiquity, being based rather on the Catholic hierarchy of angels. Elements which corresponded to pre-Christian Europe only do so to the extant that these pre-Christian elements corresponded to the real Nature of the created World.


      2. and Aule clearly corresponds with the Norse Wolund and Latin Vulcan; Manwe and Mandos play the roles of Wotan/Odin, and the highest Elf Ingwe derives his name from the Germanic god Ingvi who dwells in Alfhiem. Maybe they do share many characteristics with the Sumerian gods, but the Sumerians were in fact not Semites.

        Regarding the Indo-Europeans, they almost certainly did not originate in the Indus region, but in Southern Russia. They founded the tripartite societal structure which lasted in Europe through the middle ages. European culture prior to Christianization also had many similarities to Vedic India and Zoroastrian Persia, as documented by scholars such as Dumezil.

        I have observed your penchant for argument all over the reactosphere, even when it is probably a waste of your own time. There is practically nothing in common between our political approaches besides a general favoring of monarchy over other forms of government. I have other things to do now.

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